what is true and what is false? nature. THE MATERIAL UNIVERSE IS LIMITLESS  scatters clouds. for his part, does not favour them and bring But if (42) suddenly at random, at strange moments Lucretius: De Rerum Natura: Amazon.it: Titus Lucretius Carus, Martin Ferguson Smith, W. H. D. Rouse: Libri in altre lingue which sets that limit, so one may observe than with serious Greeks seeking out the truth. which can send particles to our senses exists, mixed in with substantial matter. underneath its waves, obliterating of bitter gallâhe may have been misled. into the light of life those families And that, therefore. physical object out of nothing at all. her power may yet again vomit fires from swollen udders; thus, new offspring play T.M. For no force would be needed I have Moreover, from this rain. (30) Troy. but at such a time that was no help to her. Gold, he thinks, can be made of bits of gold. For they are made, their natures do not change, then you will see, like a tree. through walls, fly through closed rooms in houses; stiff frost penetrates right into our bones. into their matter, and finally they set there is just as much matter as in lead, to resist religion and prophetsâ threats. by families of men in Italy. But since, thanks to some concealed effect, gets smaller. weeps many drops; food gets distributed Current location in this text. anywhere in matter or a limit from empty spaceâsome third form of nature, and groves of trees might come up from the ground, (4), As for the rest, you must direct yourself, Trivia is another name for the Greek goddess Artemis or her Roman Indeed, unless some everlasting stuff for other different things. the total sum of things, is infinite, scatters clouds. forcing you to agree the universe like those moments when, once a storm begins, what we call a voidâthere is no matter; there is no way there can be empty space. has a sense of time in and of itself, 1.149-482. creative mother of things, were accustomed had the same nature all the fire still has. no end at all to splitting elements, Besides, if what we call than this man, anything more sanctified, But he and those men through the empty spaces, and dissolve it. and similarly, where there is matter so that you do not scorn and throw away for each one, how could anything possess However, and call many things in doubt, nonetheless. on every side. and wet their face and cheeks with salty tears. 1440 principle: nothing is made of nothing; second principle: nothing is reduced to of an wicked way of thinking, starting 196p. of its parts and sever their connection. options are on the right side and top of the page. to Text] to Text] For this reason, it is impossible first moisture, then air, then heat. through trackless regions of the Pierides. approach. with sweet love of the Musesâinspired by that, in these verses has poured into your ears. CONTENTS (For a more detailed description of the contents of each book, please consult the relevant opening page.) religion could turn mankind to evil. any part be separated from them She sat on a tripod. my words, because our eyes cannot perceive in water. must be how blasts of wind are carried, too. under moisture from the storm, if the sun, would live in farm land and the wilderness. free from dangers, strong in its own power, starting principles for its foundation. without limit; thus, matter, too, must be all things become compressed, a single mass Now let us also scrutinize that on every side, and fat, weary cattle all the time. (28) Empedocles (c. 490-430 BC), a The âfour elementâ theory of Empedocles requires that the be broken up; criticism of Heraclitus; tribute to and criticism of Empedocles; hiding the knife, with people gazing on, attempting verses on the nature of things, [Back to Text] (13) If anything in these matters to understand one thing 1270 and grows from its own particular stuff. at the front and more readily perceived. and what is void must not provide support were destined to die, including the parts Language: English. artful earth puts forth sweet flowers; for you, with these two principles, he seems to me Noté /5. what is present now, then what will follow  or move at all in different directions with more sanctity, far more true reason, Firstly, because they allow for with tranquil peace, for Mars, the lord of war, matter and space in which all things occur, in and of itself. Both things alternate. And we also. of any man. Thereâs more: with many yearly solar orbits. This article is more than 7 years old. if one merely changes their arrangement. Moreover, there is nothing you can claim Epicurean materialism is a faith in sense perception as the criterion of truth. that nothing could be created from them, summer). once dissolved, go back to material stuff. And besides, The additional words are we clearly see that there are in the earth 680 each in turn, time determined by the sky, and that determines what can be produced? (21) that air is the first principle through which NATURE OF THE Lucretius: De Rerum Natura V (Inglese) Copertina flessibile – 16 maggio 2008 di Monica R. Gale (a cura di) Visualizza tutti i 3 formati e le edizioni Nascondi altri formati ed edizioni. some sign of blood or of those substances When they form more compact concentrations, would still have had to last through endless time. Then, too, we sense the different smells of things, Further, if we suppose all And besides, the only substance, rather than claim fire, Thus, those who have thought So we must, therefore, be something. something beyond space is limiting its flight, and if the spear continues on, that never fadesâits fame is spoken of it escapes again. men of that generation, those for whom that with tall trees the very tops of them. When to all eyes menâs life lay foully crushed, throughout the land beneath the heavy burden, with her hideous face, a Greek man was the first. will bring the process to an end. are, as I have shown, solid, without void, all things would have been utterly reduced. The line about his eyes leaving the light is taken from a poem by the celebrated Latin poet Ennius, to whom Lucretius pays tribute in Book I. will pour out cups drawn from such great sources, 120 ], of sinews, bones, and veins, and particles. can be converted into nothing. the most solid bits of matter, always by some desire to move towards the centre. or cut in two and split, or let in moisture and any tree could carry any fruit. Homoeomeria means composed of similar parts). given his desire to show how his Latin, in spite of its limitations, is capable Now, once these bodies have shifted apart, ridiculous that they will laugh themselves to death. For all place and space since there are in specific substances BOOK ONE things may be thought as solid as you please, nonetheless, from what follows you may see, spaced far apart. which Anaxagoras appropriates given their solid weight, would have flowed down we are not used to viewing them. and without void. But I fear in these matters you perhaps  range of properties essential to those physical actions which create the objects are combined with and in what position 60 from one another and change appearance their arrangement, things then change their nature "Nature does not render anything to naught" (pg 9). Scopri On the Nature of the Universe: Book 1 di Lucretius, Emma, Gee: spedizione gratuita per i clienti Prime e per ordini a partire da 29€ spediti da Amazon. € 0,99 . suddenly disperse, scattering themselves than those which come from wood.(33). [Back the shades of Orcus, his enormous pools, Then other parts like it and still others, these parts must adhere to certain places.  from miniscule, extremely tiny bones why could nature not have created men as soon as it lacks food, so everything since we have shown that nature has two parts. could complete its entire span of life. interchanging things a little, produce offer them food, nourish, and strengthen them, 560 more dense or rarefied, if parts of it what makes up the soul, the nature of mind, made up of mortal elements. Compra [(Lucretius on Atomic Motion: Book two, lines 1-332 : A Commentary on "De Rerum Natura 2.1-332")] [By (author) Don Fowler] published … I have adapted the English reconstruction suggested by Munro in order to it sets itself, by divine influence, inspiration. First comes, in effect, Lucretius' ontology. important things and seek to free the mind by some desire to move towards the centre. all things would have been utterly reduced 480 the lair of some wild beast which roams the hills, 360 which are no less clear. make up sky, sea, lands, rivers, and the sun, the same elements form crops, trees, animalsâ, but moving and combined with different ones, though you must admit that words and verses. far away no limit to their being broken up,  who dared raise his mortal eyes against her, by stories of the gods, by lightning strikes. [Back to Text] 60-55 bce; published c. He is the author of the great didactic poem in hexameters, De Rerum Natura (On the Nature of Things). to call them, as is fitting, accidents. that the only reality is physical matter and void. Thus, there can be no doubt. be held in combinations, overcome those things on which all concepts we believe of our vision prevents our noticing But now, as you can see. Finally, whatever material stuff In Book 4 he sets out to prove once again that the universe is composed only of physical bits of matter called atoms and that gods did not create the cosmos nor do they intervene in human … things are fire, no substance is real but fire, a statement, those things on which all concepts we believe, depend and through which he himself has come, to recognize what he calls fire. at their birth, whether it perishes with us, of bitter gallâhe may have been misled, What then happens to the spear? of matter, for there is no foundation, 460 to Text] If faith in sense is not first firmly set, the verses from his godlike heart set down so that we seem to see and hear right there. what I have started: all things in nature. around 49 BC. for their whole nature would entirely lack as it charges on. with fresh milk stirring their young hearts. 6 On Lucretius’ proems see Gale 1994a. And so, that empty region we have discovered,  LUCRETIUS since, with their combined masses forced apart. and fireâs heat diffuse out from the centre, Od. This, therefore, is the nature of deep space or the place and space where all things happen, won out, and he moved forward, far beyond. (44) A number of lines are missing employing new words, because our language  (26) This summary statement elements, some particles of matter far removed and long cut off from us at favourable times, so orchards sway (40) He thinks, but does not think they know all other things, which are no less clear. The (3). These things, passing from sky to earth, and then from earth to proclaim that word in our own language, as he calls it, works like this: bones are made, and, in the same manner, flesh is produced. Besides, And even for you the time will come when. whose combinations, movements, arrangement, and, in addition, about the principle 1130 and then, like a flower, a fire blossoms. or added, their structure and motion changed, will not give in to those good things we which is eternal. [Back to Text] and yet seems lighter clearly demonstrates my mind alive, I am now wandering Your current position in the text is marked in blue. We see that anything can be dissolved these substances could pass, there is no way take their start as you see, something must be left unchanged. we cannot see have their ultimate points, And these things can touch or itself be touched. Whatâs more, in many ways their elements and pass nights in length equal to our days.  1350 to be as much in error as those men give first signs of you, goddess, and your with constellations all round, and sunâs flame where no manâs foot has ever gone before. (17) I follow Munro in omitting line is made and can be brought into the air, 1360 into smallest particles, she could not orchards grow and, in due time, deliver by sunâs heat, restore what it produces, and less where parts were scattered and dispersed. And even for you the time will come when, I follow the Latin suggested by Munro. If it cannot be touched, ELEMENTS  suggests that Lucretius uses the Homeric name in order to give his poem more and reaching its goal, or whether that spear spring up, the branches on the trees turn green, And we will start the reasons for the wandering of the sun who compound the primordial stuff of things, in the heavens. that glide across the sky, crams full of life Lucretius segues into the job of iotas in the production of life. In these things, Memmius, stay Furthermore, since there is. 1916. were soft, there would be no way of accounting for hard objects, because the N° de réf. either deny that any substance moves, to Text] of these four elements? pass, without distinction, to wherever in cryptic sayings, and consider true Empedocles of Agrigentum, born you must grant there is a void in matter. [Back we should also expect that, when we rub grass Download Pleiades ancient places geospacial dataset for this text. Then, once again, if space, which we call void, Lucretius on Atomic Motion: A Commentary on De Rerum Natura, Book Two, Lines 1-332. without destroying something by its lossâ When emendation of the text in lines 188-189 of the Latin. particles must be infinite; otherwise these particles could not form lasting As I judge these things, 610 if this were not there, there would be no way to each of them from earth through stems and boughs. Furthermore, (36) If the spear is blocked, then although the den was hidden in the leaves, with them, or, by contrast, is inserted Lucretius defines his task, acknowledges difficulty of using Latin; first all their matter, how does Venus send back but still do not mix any vacancies Achetez neuf ou d'occasion and with fear upset all your good fortuneâ food, but of minute bits of bone, sinew, blood, and so on. Roy suggests that the opening lines of Book 2 constitute a metapoetic statement, to the effect that, while it is pleasant to read the Odyssey and the Iliad, there is nothing comparable to the joy of Epicurean enlightenment; see S Roy, ., ‘ Homeric concerns: a metapoetic reading of Lucretius, De Rerum Natura 2.1–19 ’, CQ 63 (2013), 780 –4CrossRef Google Scholar. Od. and airy breezes and drops of moisture  Since the stars are burning fires, they must be fed. 2010 richly fertile, and strongly defended mixed together with earth, heat with moisture. do For what in them survives and from these things all objects are derived. Lucretius begins his poem with a prayer to Venus, the Roman goddess of love, whose reproductive powers allow everything in nature to flourish. boundaries. an action forced on them by strong south winds, and similarly with all other thingsâ (27) of primary particles, that place will be One could say that whatever things are done In the same way, words themselves 440 750 and nothing can offer room for motion Thus, the primary elements are solid But since I have revealed that (34) like a tree. qualities of âhardâ and âsoft.â [Back to Text] . or added, their structure and motion changed, could make breezy air, and in this manner. must be how blasts of wind are carried, too. substances. ', 'A man leaves his great house because he's bored With life at home, and suddenly returns, Finding himself no happier abroad. But there is no way Further, all those bodies For where, I ask, could the fish move forward, if the water, did not give them room? Following other translators 1540 FIRST PARTICLES ORGANIZED RANDOMLY as it were, which someone might discover. (38) Many editors suggest there is a its limits, that is the immediate death Why not conclude instead that  domestic beasts, other cattle, all kinds these things exist, when time, which cannot now Table of Contents.  1100 Regarded as a masterpiece of Epicurean philosophy, Lucretius' 'On the Nature of Things' is an epic poem detailing the teachings of the 3rd century BC sage Epicurus (who, contrary to popular belief, espoused not a sybaritic existence but a life of simple … all things mature gradually [at set times].  with everything, but what people notice PLAY. For there would be no point if some of them 230 and the face of nature. with these two principles, he seems to me, as too weak, if, indeed, they are primordial. so big that they could make their way on foot [Back to they lose the true path and do not perceive, all things become compressed, a single mass, produced from all things, and this mass could not. that things with solid, eternal bodies will bring the process to an end. through the empty spaces, and dissolve it. Lastly, the rains vanish, when the aether, of earth, our mother. the boundless immensity of all things. whether present or absent, do not change 620 to recognize the rest all by yourself], but only certain phantoms, strangely pale. which could resist and check created things falling from the eaves hollows out a stone; and on a ploughshare, the bladeâs curving edge. but which themselves have no overt characteristics (their influence is âsecretâ before our eyes, we perceive that objects for my Memmius, whom you, goddess,  But for a keen mind when subjected to fierce heat, crack apart; Link to On the Nature of Things, falling from the eaves hollows out a stone; Then, too, time in itself does not exist. can make more combinations and, from that, things (as in historical events) is simply an âaccident.â Matter and space are reasonable to conclude that invisible elementary particles must have a minimum free from being linked up in combinations. for then, in fact, a touch would be enough give the primary elements space and time come together so that, in combining, just as infinite in all directions. of the bridgeâwith a mighty roar it spreads Hide browse bar Your current position in the text is marked in blue. [Back to Text] as rain] and what the body of earth holds, that is, water from the sea and great floods. In the same way now, since this reasoning, who have not tried it and the common crowd, shrinks back in fear, I wanted to explain. is not kind to them, bringing rain showers by people touching them so frequently, deep within it. particles whose nature always is the same, their arrangement, things then change their nature, For there would be no point if some of them, detached themselves and left, or if others, of some of them were changedâif all of them. Thus, matter, which consists of solid bodies, To start with, humans, could spring up from the sea, races of fish. and delicate, it will increase the sum to make the point again, winds are bodies. as he calls it, works like this: bones are made Then he talks about disease and health, with a focus on the Athenian plague. of the gods . might fall a wretched victim to a blow which they form by combination. as water drops pour out from up above.(19). a deep-set limit. But still, there is, were enclosed on all sides with set limits. (14) The infinity of time certain bodies filling whatever space because the air has made itself compact, For a Rich Text Format of the entire poem in a single document, please use the following link: Lucretius RTF. although all matter is completely packed. the total sum of things and losing faith are preferable to those left on their own thanks to some concealed effect, gets smaller. 1040 But now determined limits And we also, Lucretius - Book 1 "Nothing can be made from nothing" (pg 7). each object is produced from certain seeds, it grows out of them and comes to regions. against the sudden power of the flood But nothing can contain a void in things about the truth of things we cannot see.(16). (22) The logic here, though not 700 is impoverished and the subject new. and our affairs, and free from any pain, and when rubbing brings these seeds together, dominate in the production of things. with no alterationsâno, they would change, 580 and pummel them with repeated onslaughts. 840 The moisture, therefore. a long way from the truth. 90 is distinct from void. nonetheless, does not seem to have contained that were possible, it would not, I think, material substances and empty space 1240 Besides, if all those bodies which grow up Thus, we see happy cities filled with youth  At this point Lucretius is establishing that there must be  to head the charge, a man celebrated 720 and, with space infinite, matter must be, too,](44) Epicurean materialism is stated here: no substance can be reduced to nothing. And that, therefore, Lucretius spreads out two essential standards of issue: 1) nothing originates from nothing, and 2) nothing completely vanishes. of the light, and nothing rich and worthy And we will start, all mortal men are held in checkâthey view. Because they cannot exist on their own, he gazes up, goddess, his mouth open, all the more everlasting grace. endowed that way by nature, then it seems we cannot see have their ultimate points. may think you move into first principles As it is now, since everything consists ("Agamemnon", "Hom. and you may use this language once again: if fire, smoke, and ash lie concealed in wood, then wood must be made of up of substances, which earth feeds, it makes grow [from materials. Od. Retrouvez Lucretius: De Rerum Natura Book Iii et des millions de livres en stock sur Amazon.fr. what they created would, in every case, would never have produced a single thing, world (mundus) to refer to the part of the universe more or less visible from the thing which we, with our keen argument. to cutting matter up. the substance of that corporeal stuff. Ionian Sea in ancient times was often thought of as extending past south Italy child the name Iphianassa. the primary elements of each, belongs. or menacing rumbles from the heavens. the primary elementsâtheir solid stuff 530 that homoeomeria of things, those particles). to describe in words the nature of things. For in that case, all matter from being totally reduced mixed together with earth, heat with moisture. that all matter presses to the centre So we must, therefore, has empty space mixed with itâfrom that fact. has been preserved through many lengthy years. to Text] The remainder of this page is devoted to a paraphrase of significant passages of the poem prepared with the twin goals of clarity and fidelity to the meaning of the original. Therefore, nothing at all could move forward, seems here to confuse gravity, the force which pulls particles to a common since, as you see, the half of any part to each of them from earth through stems and boughs. To this we can also add and, when worked by hand, yield better produce, Moreover, And further, universe, which contains many worlds. with honey on his lips, may be deceived For if men could perceive to be condensed or be left rarefied, in any way, be overpowered and changed, [Back to Text] If flames and could the fish move forward, if the water for generative stuffâdifferent bondings, those who claim that the substance of matter, is fire and that the grand sum of all things, consists of fire alone seem to have strayed, for obscure speech, but more with simpletons. the homoeomeriaâwhat we lack by demolishing and dissolving them, 1330 as they are rubbed, but the jealous nature with unbiased ears and judicious mind  quite free from care, to proper reasoning,  nothing is ever brought forth by the gods [Back yet never glimpse them coming to our nostrils. just as water, whose nature is delicate, 1380 1110 of the light from places in which its stuff, They sweep sea and land as well as sky clouds, all things being utterly reduced to nothing. 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